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"FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem" (fuelstratifiedinjection)
07/31/2016 at 06:47 • Filed to: None

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kanadanmajava1 > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem
07/31/2016 at 07:03

It seems to be from Finland and it looks quite nice. Slammed cars aren’t terribly good for our rural dirt roads though. I haven’t seen many modified Camry’s here that wouldn’t look ugly. Usually it’s just horrible wheels, noisy stereo system and tribal stickers.

Nauraushaun > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem
07/31/2016 at 07:27

Could do without the cambera. Nice to see someone appreciating these cars though. I was at the wreckers today and these things were everywhere.

MultiplaOrgasms > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem
07/31/2016 at 08:11

Kinja'd!!!

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > kanadanmajava1
07/31/2016 at 08:39

Camrys are very rare around here in Germany and most of them seem to be driven by old folks, at least in my town. Older Japanese cars are often vicitims for the jdm tyte yo! crowd around the world.

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > Nauraushaun
07/31/2016 at 08:41

I really dig the pre 2000s Camrys. The wagon especially.

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > MultiplaOrgasms
07/31/2016 at 08:45

Haven’t seen one in a decade. I’d take it over a Passat all day.

Nauraushaun > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem
07/31/2016 at 09:07

With dual wipers at both ends :D They’re alright, they don’t usually look this good.

Including these bad boys?

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=97+ca…

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > Nauraushaun
07/31/2016 at 09:28

The bulky looks somehow appeal to me haha. I totally forgot about the wipers being dual.

Yep, I like those as well but just because they are rather rare around here.

kanadanmajava1 > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem
07/31/2016 at 18:05

Before 2003 we didn’t import any other car besides over 25 year old ones as the import taxation was nearly the same for used and new cars. Besides the old ones the only exception was bringing car to Finland as moving goods. A lot of Finnish people went to work abroad for couple of years and brought some nice car tax free during the move.

During those times Camrys were the number one moving good import car. Especially for people that had been working in the US. They were expensive here but cheap in the US. Toyotas are one of the used cars that keep their value really well and they are usually quite reliable.

Now Camrys are getting rare as Toyota hasn’t been selling new ones in years.

Nauraushaun > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem
07/31/2016 at 23:00

Rare!? They’re everywhere here.

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > kanadanmajava1
08/01/2016 at 02:32

Tax free? That sounds great. We have a 19% import tarif on top on everything in Germany iirc. From the few Camrys in Germany a lot of them went to Africa as exports because of their reliability. About them being expensive, afaik Toyota positioned the Camry against more upscale cars which failed because all cars which don’t have either four rings, a three pointed star or a roundel don’t really sell here.

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > Nauraushaun
08/01/2016 at 02:36

Welcome to Germany, where all larger cars that aren’t BMWs, Audis or Mercedes’ don’t sell.

Nauraushaun > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem
08/01/2016 at 02:56

Not enough people talk about the domestic markets of places like Germany and Italy. Australians and Americans live in such an automotive melting pot, it’s hard to imagine somewhere where the German 3 or Fiat reign supreme.

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > Nauraushaun
08/01/2016 at 03:13

I always chuckle when I see the reactions when non Europeans see that most taxis in Germany are Mercedes E-Classes and that the law enforcement uses BMW in my state. The German market is dominated by VW and it seems that the diesel crisis didn’t bother anyone around here judging from their sales figueres.

Nauraushaun > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem
08/01/2016 at 03:18

I think the diesel crisis was more of an American thing wasn’t it? They were lying to try and beat the absurd American regulations.

Other countries already love diesels, and they aren’t so heavily regulated so why worry?

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > Nauraushaun
08/01/2016 at 03:43

We do have strict regulations too. Diesel fuel does have a slight tax advantage in Europe, that’s why diesel powered cars are popular and they also get great mileage. Imo, the Dieselgate was necessary for all parties involved to wake up. I’m gonna play the devil’s advocate here and say that it’s part the EU’s fault. Automakers knew for years that co2 regulations will get stricter and couldn’t keep up. Several automakers already ordered recalls for their cars, my best friend has to go to the dealer in September.

What the US does with VW is kinda pathetic imo. It’s a witch hunt and the vicitims are the dealers and customers sitting on now cars worth way under actual value.

kanadanmajava1 > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem
08/01/2016 at 06:17

If we import something from the US be have pay customs (~10%) and value added tax (24%) for the purchase price and shipping costs. This is common practice in the whole EU but the VAT varies. I do believe that Netherlands has still only 7% (is still this correct?) for used cars so it would be to ship expensive car there to be taxed.

But we slap the import tax on top of those. This you will have to pay even if the car comes from EU. Unlike other costs it estimated by choosing a new car that resembles the used the most. Then the depreciation is counted by the year model. For 10 year old car the tax is still notable but for old one is next to nothing. The 25 year old cars being (import) tax free rule has been was removed. Now they actually removed the import tax exception for moving goods too.

These taxes cause that an US spec car for an example Mustang is nearly double the price when it is sold here.

The Japanese cars for European markets are quite horrible currently. BRZ/GT86 is probably the only interesting as nearly all other look and/or are extremely stupid cars. Qashqai has been top seller here in Finland in some years...

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > kanadanmajava1
08/01/2016 at 06:43

I think the import tax for cars is 10% plus 19% vat. Iirc the Netherlands do have only 7%, a lot of cars enter the EU through the Rotterdam port. On top of that is the cost for conversion (rear fog lights and amber turn signals etc).

Indeed, the offerings from the Japanese on the Euorpean market are super meh, except for most Mazdas and the ToyoBaru twins.